Comments on: A sensitive boy and the Kar Sewaks http://www.shaarique.com/a-sensitive-boy-and-the-kar-sewaks/ Sat, 05 Jul 2008 01:06:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: bob http://www.shaarique.com/a-sensitive-boy-and-the-kar-sewaks/#comment-24525 bob Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:07:02 +0000 http://www.shaarique.com/a-sensitive-boy-and-the-kar-sewaks/#comment-24525 l9ZByD hi great site thx http://peace.com l9ZByD hi great site thx http://peace.com

]]> By: TRUE INDIAN http://www.shaarique.com/a-sensitive-boy-and-the-kar-sewaks/#comment-18277 TRUE INDIAN Sun, 21 Oct 2007 09:04:02 +0000 http://www.shaarique.com/a-sensitive-boy-and-the-kar-sewaks/#comment-18277 I am a secular Indian and respect all the religions and more than that I LOVE MY INDIA. But It’s so painful to leave in such a great country with such a 3rd class, animal like political & religious leaders :twisted: who can do what ever they want with this country at any time. It also shame full that the people of our nation are so blind and can go to any and prove themselves ANIMAL when it comes to religion, and I am talking about all religions not one. I would like to point out some points about which no one ever talks regarding Islamic terrorism and anti-national activities in INDIA. - Muslims are not alone, have you ever thought about Naksalwadi. How much damage they are doing to our nation and in how many states they are active. ( all with the help of our great politicians ) - What about the MAO WADI ??? - How can you forget the LTTE and related groups ??? - The BHINDRA WALE case in PUNJAB at the time of indira Gandhi was equally worst. - How much you know what is going on in north east states of india with the help of china ??? - Did youk know that China is currently trying their best to break the north east part of india and occupy the indian land ??? If you sum all the other terrorist groups listed above who are either fighting against a particular community or political system or against our whole nation, the numbers and the damage done by them will be FAR FAR FAR greater compared to muslims. :shock: NOW THE BIG QUESTION ~~~~ why any of the so called hindu groups ( RSS, VHP ) are not SAYING A SINGLE WORD ABOUT THIS ????? :oops: :?: Please post you genuine comments on this. I am a secular Indian and respect all the religions and more than that I LOVE MY INDIA. But It’s so painful to leave in such a great country with such a 3rd class, animal like political & religious leaders :twisted: who can do what ever they want with this country at any time. It also shame full that the people of our nation are so blind and can go to any and prove themselves ANIMAL when it comes to religion, and I am talking about all religions not one.

I would like to point out some points about which no one ever talks regarding Islamic terrorism and anti-national activities in INDIA.

- Muslims are not alone, have you ever thought about Naksalwadi. How much damage they are doing to our nation and in how many states they are active. ( all with the help of our great politicians )
- What about the MAO WADI ???
- How can you forget the LTTE and related groups ???
- The BHINDRA WALE case in PUNJAB at the time of indira Gandhi was equally worst.
- How much you know what is going on in north east states of india with the help of china ???
- Did youk know that China is currently trying their best to break the north east part of india and occupy the indian land ???

If you sum all the other terrorist groups listed above who are either fighting against a particular community or political system or against our whole nation, the numbers and the damage done by them will be FAR FAR FAR greater compared to muslims. :shock:

NOW THE BIG QUESTION ~~~~ why any of the so called hindu groups ( RSS, VHP ) are not SAYING A SINGLE WORD ABOUT THIS ????? :oops: :?:

Please post you genuine comments on this.

]]> By: sandy http://www.shaarique.com/a-sensitive-boy-and-the-kar-sewaks/#comment-18158 sandy Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:25:51 +0000 http://www.shaarique.com/a-sensitive-boy-and-the-kar-sewaks/#comment-18158 :cry: sad looking at a blog publishing one sided story...blaiming RSS for everything...well wat congress is doing from long playing with sentiments of hindus always doing everythin for other religions and abusing hindus......riots were started by muslims....and all terror attacks matter of fact in india...but i dont blame all muslims for it....and in regards with so called secular congress and CPI they r the once who always are main forces behind riots in india...why isnt there ny riot in BJP rule and only in congress rule...... the rulling alliance is playing minority card consider u as minority vote bank and you are playing in there hands pitty on u pitty on india.....dnt knw where this country would go as ppl like u with close mind and religious sensitivity would always play in hands of mulla's and congress :cry: sad looking at a blog publishing one sided story…blaiming RSS for everything…well wat congress is doing from long playing with sentiments of hindus always doing everythin for other religions and abusing hindus……riots were started by muslims….and all terror attacks matter of fact in india…but i dont blame all muslims for it….and in regards with so called secular congress and CPI they r the once who always are main forces behind riots in india…why isnt there ny riot in BJP rule and only in congress rule……
the rulling alliance is playing minority card consider u as minority vote bank and you are playing in there hands pitty on u pitty on india…..dnt knw where this country would go as ppl like u with close mind and religious sensitivity would always play in hands of mulla’s and congress

]]> By: noemaun http://www.shaarique.com/a-sensitive-boy-and-the-kar-sewaks/#comment-17835 noemaun Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:09:58 +0000 http://www.shaarique.com/a-sensitive-boy-and-the-kar-sewaks/#comment-17835 so your family and your surroundings put venom in your heart even by the age of 13, telling you "biased" stories of history when instead they could have thought you so many other stuffs with would helped common good. whether the history is true or not, is a different question. the fact that your environment tries to spread hatred in young minds is despicable. i did not know anything about communal riots from my parents or relatives, till the age when i could myself start reading from various newspapers. so your family and your surroundings put venom in your heart even by the age of 13, telling you “biased” stories of history when instead they could have thought you so many other stuffs with would helped common good.

whether the history is true or not, is a different question. the fact that your environment tries to spread hatred in young minds is despicable.

i did not know anything about communal riots from my parents or relatives, till the age when i could myself start reading from various newspapers.

]]> By: An even more sensitive child http://www.shaarique.com/a-sensitive-boy-and-the-kar-sewaks/#comment-17828 An even more sensitive child Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:43:50 +0000 http://www.shaarique.com/a-sensitive-boy-and-the-kar-sewaks/#comment-17828 I was 13 when the Mosque was demolished. Since I was always a very sensitive child, I rejoiced for I saw how unreasonable Muslims had been in refuting all efforts at reconciliation. I was overjoyed for I felt that for the first time in a millenium, a mosque had been demolished as a response to countless temple demolitions And one more thing, when you were a 'sensitive' child, Mr Togadia was not even known by anyone I was 13 when the Mosque was demolished. Since I was always a very sensitive child, I rejoiced for I saw how unreasonable Muslims had been in refuting all efforts at reconciliation.

I was overjoyed for I felt that for the first time in a millenium, a mosque had been demolished as a response to countless temple demolitions

And one more thing, when you were a ’sensitive’ child, Mr Togadia was not even known by anyone

]]> By: Sharique http://www.shaarique.com/a-sensitive-boy-and-the-kar-sewaks/#comment-4126 Sharique Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:13:20 +0000 http://www.shaarique.com/a-sensitive-boy-and-the-kar-sewaks/#comment-4126 I have seen sikh angry over the inclusion of their religion by the RSS. This ideology basically fueled the khalistan movement, they wanted freedom from the clutches of being clubbed with Hindus. I have seen sikh angry over the inclusion of their religion by the RSS. This ideology basically fueled the khalistan movement, they wanted freedom from the clutches of being clubbed with Hindus.

]]> By: Rohit http://www.shaarique.com/a-sensitive-boy-and-the-kar-sewaks/#comment-4122 Rohit Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:54:49 +0000 http://www.shaarique.com/a-sensitive-boy-and-the-kar-sewaks/#comment-4122 I think RSS loves Sikhs because during the 1947 riots, Sikhs (like Hindus) were evicted from Pakistan, and hence they ended up being on the side of Hindus. In Pakistan, both Hindus and Sikhs were killed by Muslims, while in India Sikhs joined Hindus in killing Muslims. Basically, since Sikhs and Hindus were on the same side, they are perceived as fellow-victims (of "Muslim aggression") by the Hindutva brigade. Another reason the RSS and BJP love Sikhs is that because since 1984, Sikhs always vote for the BJP. This has nothing to do with the BJP, though; Sikhs basically vote anti-Congress, to punish Congress for the 1984 violence. If you check out Sikh communities on Orkut, you will actually find some Sikh youth angry at RSS for calling Sikhism a part of Hinduism. And many Sikhs sympathize with Muslims. As for Sikh culture, I think it is a mix of Hinduism and Islam in equal proportions. Like Islam, Sikhism is unambiguously monotheistic (unlike Hinduism, which is monotheistic at its core but you have to dig through many layers to discover that). God is even referred to as Allah, and so on. But of course, there are influences of Hinduism too, like "Omkar" (derived from Hinduism's "Om"), the importance of the saffron and yellow colours, etc ... I think RSS loves Sikhs because during the 1947 riots, Sikhs (like Hindus) were evicted from Pakistan, and hence they ended up being on the side of Hindus. In Pakistan, both Hindus and Sikhs were killed by Muslims, while in India Sikhs joined Hindus in killing Muslims. Basically, since Sikhs and Hindus were on the same side, they are perceived as fellow-victims (of “Muslim aggression”) by the Hindutva brigade.

Another reason the RSS and BJP love Sikhs is that because since 1984, Sikhs always vote for the BJP. This has nothing to do with the BJP, though; Sikhs basically vote anti-Congress, to punish Congress for the 1984 violence.

If you check out Sikh communities on Orkut, you will actually find some Sikh youth angry at RSS for calling Sikhism a part of Hinduism. And many Sikhs sympathize with Muslims.

As for Sikh culture, I think it is a mix of Hinduism and Islam in equal proportions. Like Islam, Sikhism is unambiguously monotheistic (unlike Hinduism, which is monotheistic at its core but you have to dig through many layers to discover that). God is even referred to as Allah, and so on. But of course, there are influences of Hinduism too, like “Omkar” (derived from Hinduism’s “Om”), the importance of the saffron and yellow colours, etc …

]]> By: Sharique http://www.shaarique.com/a-sensitive-boy-and-the-kar-sewaks/#comment-4114 Sharique Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:22:16 +0000 http://www.shaarique.com/a-sensitive-boy-and-the-kar-sewaks/#comment-4114 [quote post="462"]can humans share a feeling of kinship only with people who are *similar* to them? Do we automatically feel threatened by those who are different?[/quote] Rohit, unfortunately its true! I do also feel that Sikh-Hindu relation is different from a Muslim-Hindu relation for lot of reasons. One of them being that RSS hates Muslims but treats Sikh as their own. Muslims are considered traitors because Pakistan is an 'so called' Islamic republic. A Sikh's culture is more similar to that of an Hindu. Saying all these doesn't justify the animosity that exists between the 2 communities. We have to live as Indians and shun the anti-social elements out. [quote post="462"]can humans share a feeling of kinship only with people who are *similar* to them? Do we automatically feel threatened by those who are different?[/quote]
Rohit, unfortunately its true! I do also feel that Sikh-Hindu relation is different from a Muslim-Hindu relation for lot of reasons. One of them being that RSS hates Muslims but treats Sikh as their own. Muslims are considered traitors because Pakistan is an ’so called’ Islamic republic. A Sikh’s culture is more similar to that of an Hindu.

Saying all these doesn’t justify the animosity that exists between the 2 communities. We have to live as Indians and shun the anti-social elements out.

]]> By: Rohit http://www.shaarique.com/a-sensitive-boy-and-the-kar-sewaks/#comment-4106 Rohit Fri, 16 Mar 2007 06:45:38 +0000 http://www.shaarique.com/a-sensitive-boy-and-the-kar-sewaks/#comment-4106 Another memory, about mixed localities: I come from a locality of Delhi where there are approximately 25% Sikhs and 75% Hindus. During the 1984 riots, my father, grandfather and all adult males of the locality (Hindus and Sikhs combined) used to stand guard at rooftops, with "lathis" and whatever else they could manage, so that no troublemaker entered the area. And their efforts paid off - there was no violence in our area. So, I feel mixed localities can be safe or unsafe, depending upon the relations between the communities living there. In our locality, the relations between Hindus and Sikhs are excellent, because this locality was originally settled in 1947 by Hindu and Sikh refugees from Pakistan. Having come from similar backgrounds, and having experienced similar hardships (on both sides of the border), there is a feeling of kinship towards each other. And now, for a disturbing thought: can humans share a feeling of kinship only with people who are *similar* to them? Do we automatically feel threatened by those who are different? Another memory, about mixed localities:

I come from a locality of Delhi where there are approximately 25% Sikhs and 75% Hindus. During the 1984 riots, my father, grandfather and all adult males of the locality (Hindus and Sikhs combined) used to stand guard at rooftops, with “lathis” and whatever else they could manage, so that no troublemaker entered the area. And their efforts paid off - there was no violence in our area.

So, I feel mixed localities can be safe or unsafe, depending upon the relations between the communities living there. In our locality, the relations between Hindus and Sikhs are excellent, because this locality was originally settled in 1947 by Hindu and Sikh refugees from Pakistan. Having come from similar backgrounds, and having experienced similar hardships (on both sides of the border), there is a feeling of kinship towards each other.

And now, for a disturbing thought: can humans share a feeling of kinship only with people who are *similar* to them? Do we automatically feel threatened by those who are different?

]]> By: Rohit http://www.shaarique.com/a-sensitive-boy-and-the-kar-sewaks/#comment-4105 Rohit Fri, 16 Mar 2007 06:43:19 +0000 http://www.shaarique.com/a-sensitive-boy-and-the-kar-sewaks/#comment-4105 I felt sad to read that you couldn't use your real names during your Puri trip. I too was a kid at the time of the demolition, and I remember some Hindu friends praising it as correcting a crime perpetrated by Babar. I disagreed, and argues that two wrongs didn't make a right. I felt sad to read that you couldn’t use your real names during your Puri trip.

I too was a kid at the time of the demolition, and I remember some Hindu friends praising it as correcting a crime perpetrated by Babar. I disagreed, and argues that two wrongs didn’t make a right.

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