India Wins Twenty-20 World Cup- In Pictures

by Sharique on September 25, 2007

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Wo, wo wo! Could we have a better picture of the day? The atmosphere here is electrifying, to say the least. I was out on the roads of Chandigarh and almost everyone was screaming ‘Chak de India’ on the top of his voice. The traffic police was having a tough time managing the drunk merry making crowd.

The best part about the win has been the Pakistan and youth factor. While the younger players have proven their mettle, a lot still needs to be done in the bowling department. But still win is a win and that too particularly against Pakistan. India-Pakistan world cup final would be a dream come true for millions on this globe. And nothing could have surpassed the tense final moments of the final match. When Misbah tossed the ball of Joginder Sharma, many heart stopped beating. The catch by Sreesaanth put the heart beat back for Indians and perhaps took away few beats for Pakistanis. It was the most perfect finish we could have hoped for.

“First of all I want to say something over here. I want to thank you back home Pakistan and where the Muslim lives all over the world.”

Shoaib Malik after the match remarked, or rather apologized, to the entire Muslims for losing! I found it extremely disturbing, to say the least. How justified is to associate the whole Muslim world with the cricket team of Pakistan? As a matter of fact this generalization is something very common among Pakistanis. They claimed to have acquired Nuclear weapon to protect the Muslim world when the first testing took place immediately after India tested its nuke. The basis being the only Muslim country to have acquired nuclear capability. The same logic was extended to cricket, Pakistan being the strongest among Muslim countries.

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Picture credit- Cricket Next, Indiatimes and cricinfo

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I found it so embarrassing when Malik mentioned this to Ravi Shastri as I was watching the match with my office colleagues. Murmurs immediately buzzed the extremely charged environment. People were critical how Malik was dragging the entire Muslim world into this. He gave a statement before the match that his team will definitely win as it is Ramdaan and his team members ‘jee jaan eek kar denge‘. Its a common perception that India can’t defeat Pakistan on Fridays as its an auspicious day for Muslims. Whenever a friend of mine used to mention this, I used to present my counter-argument based on the fact that India has more Muslims than Pakistan so why not India? I never got a reply back.

Even though this statement might be considered frivolous in Pakistan and across the Muslim countries, well in case cricket does make any sense to any of them, it has serious repercussions in a country like India where Muslims are already seen with suspicion. Even though none of my colleagues commented about this statement but a doubt would definitely have burgeoned regarding my loyalties. A natural question would be, “who do you support?”

Irfan Pathan should have objected to this as he was interviewed immediately after him. His clarification would have at least made Malik realise that his team was just representing Pakistan and why the hell is religion being brought into cricket?

I don’t want to be termed as a sadist who keeps looking for trifle things on an evening when India won the world cup and thus I don’t want this to be a harangue against the incident.

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1 prashanth 09.25.07 at 2:11 am

nice post sharique … and yeah let em know we have the second largest muslim population after indonesia… Very nice to see a liberal view from your side. proud of you !!

2 vinayak 09.25.07 at 3:06 am

great summary.

3 ashok pai 09.25.07 at 4:13 am

i think shoiab’s coment was totally uncalled for. whatever the reason, i’m sure he has lost a few fans across the border. not only that the officials aroud the stadium and across continents will be talking about the gaffe. some explnations have to be done too. afterall, sports is no place for politics and religion.

sad that pakistani players repeatedly drag religion into the sport. inzy was first with his opening lines thanking god, and later every other sentence. its kind of sick that yu have to do it repeatedly and deliberately. religion is private and best kept private, and the last place it should appear is on stage in a sports event.

4 Krishna 09.25.07 at 5:20 am

Sharique

You were right on. I am a big fan of pakistani team for their fighting spirit. I love watching wasim akram and inzamam ul haq.

I was a fan of shoib too, not anymore. Shoaib is a disgrace to the cricket league and he should be reprimanded for his comments in a public ceremony

5 coolshankin 09.25.07 at 6:34 am

perhaps he was speaking for for Muslims in Islamic countries …. and India, thankfully, being a secular country can be taken out of the equation …. it is a known fact that UAE etc… all support Pakistan … i am sure he was referring to them … (i did not see the ceremony, but i am sure it was an honest mistake)

6 Anonymous 09.25.07 at 10:48 am

really amazing match ever seen before

7 Sharique 09.25.07 at 1:17 pm

Prashanth and Vinayak,
Thanks.

Ashok,
Thanking God and thanking Muslims are 2 entirely different things, one can be personal matter and the other can incite passions :)
Krishna,
An apology from him would help a lot.

Shankar,
I don’t think it was a mistake. What about the non-Muslims in his own team? But there is one possibility that his pathetic english could have been responsible :)

8 Nihit 09.25.07 at 3:36 pm

now what would be cool is to see ponting saying after winning any major tournament is that this trophy is dedicated to all the whites in the world and white supremacy :) .

I feel shoibs comments show lack of patriotism for his country if he was playing for a muslim such as for irfan pathan (who was playing for india), then who was playing for pakistan? nobody! thats so unfair to see all 22 players playing for one side..

9 Nihit 09.25.07 at 3:44 pm

shoib malik santa clause of all the muslim world who dont have so much money for buying gifts so he reguarly brings gifts for them.

btw i had so much respect for pakistan team and specially for misbah ul haq who lifted it from 7 down. but for that one moment.. which took a lot of it back..

10 Priyank 09.25.07 at 5:54 pm

I was watching the match with my Pakistani colleague, who, incidently was a Christian. He was so pissed off at this comments. I can’t imagine what he felt. But then, for a country that was born from partition based on religious lines, it’s easy to hijack and brainwash the population…

11 Sharique 09.25.07 at 10:29 pm

Priyank,
He must have felt an alien in his own country.

12 Anonymous 09.26.07 at 12:26 am

:neutral: :twisted: :arrow: :shock: :evil: :grin: :oops: :wink: :lol:

13 Sachin 09.26.07 at 3:21 pm

I fill very sorry for Shoaib, Once again he couldn’t change the history but he should not be let go for this mistake. He should know that there are more muslims in india than in pakistan. There has to be some explaination.

14 Nihit 09.26.07 at 4:10 pm

When Danish Kaneria bowls to Irfan Pathan or vice versa, who do hindu lives and muslim lives wherever in the world they are support?

15 archana 09.28.07 at 2:39 pm

i love you pathan

16 Hashim 09.28.07 at 5:38 pm

This is Hashim Ali from Islamabad.
Well i watch shoaib interview and also see the kind of response from people of india.

I believe sports has nothing to do with religion and some one faith should be lot bigger than this game to talk about. Shoaib malik what had said i think hardly one sentence to thanks people of muslim who are praying for their success in this holy month of Ramadan. And also before the match he said to pray for them and at the end he just thanks for their pray. I think it is some sort of propaganda and if i am not wrong a mind set still their in india against pakistan. When india came in pakistan at 2004 and won the series people had given kind hostage which was recognized there in india.

but look when our players come back to pakistan no one said bad to them and people encourage them. on the other hand in india if they lose …….

Hashim Ali

17 Nihit 09.28.07 at 5:49 pm

mr hashim fyi we loved pakistan after the game and almost wished misbahs effort had not gone wasted that way,.. but that one sentence took a lot of that new trust away.. we dont enjoy thinking bad about pakistan rather we feel very good when we can say something nice about pakistan.. but pls dont give us reasons to create a mistrust.. can you explain me where does shoibs comments leave any place for someone who was not muslim but supporting pakistan.. we dont need any propoganda.. we have better things to do in life.. however we can take out time to think something good about pakistan but pls give us some reasons like misbah.. you dont know but he is already a hero in india.. just that we could not feel the same love for shoaib due to his indifference to people who are not muslim.. do they not exist in his world? do they not want to hear thanks from him.. do they like being ignored by him?

18 Nihit 09.28.07 at 5:52 pm

my personal views are that religion and faith are just drama.. whether it be hindoo or muslim.. they have killed more lives than saved.. i have enough sense to be directed in life than needing any story text books to guide me. for me religion is the least important thing in life.. anyone giving it more importance than kindness and compassion is fooling himself. btw each to his own views

19 dhruv 09.29.07 at 12:37 am

good job india you win the world cap good lake

20 Ronit 09.29.07 at 1:01 am

I thot that pakistan was going to win the world cap but india
win the world cap . :grin: :lol: :razz: :eek:

21 harshad 09.29.07 at 1:59 pm

:arrow: hi i am harshad

22 Adnan Siddiqi 09.30.07 at 7:18 pm

Thanks Shariq for your comments however I think you do admit that the so called secular status of India doesn’t exist anywhere and Muslims do have to compromise by any mean to lead a normal life in India.

For others, read this, seems India is not so visible to ttheir own country men.

What’s wrong with Indians

Quit bickering about Pakistan and enjoy your victory. Try to give few space to others too while there is so much filth within your own people.

23 Nihit 10.01.07 at 1:52 am

mr hashim, read the posts pls

24 Hashim 10.01.07 at 8:22 am

I had read the posts nihit how long want to discuss that in this forum. I think enough has said to shoaib. He is a young captain might be still not mature enough… its too much criticism. I am sure he has no intention to disheart people. I have read article on news papers published by some one from india against shoaib malik. Its enough.
He has said now that he had no intentions like that…
and remember when some one compare india and pakistan history about minorities rights you will found less incidence in pakistan where our non muslims country fellow are targated. Its all rubish propaganda on electronic media in abroad. After Gujrat incidence where more than 2000 muslims where burned and killed by some fascists. here in Pakistan not a single non muslim become the victum. peolple respect persons that have wisdom and knowledge and doesn’t matter belonging of any religion(for example few months ago “Rana bhagwan Das” was the Cheif justice of Pakistan Supreme court). Minorities might not seen very much in high posts in pakistan due to the reason that in pakistan 96 % population is of muslims. Although pakistan is a country that came into being in the name of islam but quaid-e-azam had said in 1947 oct that all the minorities and non muslims have equal rights of citizen in Pakistan. Also u can never expect from true muslim who knows islam to make victum of non muslims.

Hashim Ali.

25 Nihit 10.01.07 at 12:22 pm

we can discuss it as long as you want..
we want to make it an issue and not let it get away without notice since it is not all OK cuz we dont want something like this which divides a bunch of people on the same field from another bunch of people playing with them. This criticism will help him and others to make sure they be more careful before making such racist remarks. (I take it for now that it was a mistake) Now that he has realized it and several others who could have made the same without knowing it cleans a lot of our sporting environment from racism. (imagine rickey ponting or darryl hair making ignorant racist remarks and not feeling the need to be pointed out or ignored). I dont have much knowledge about the minorities/non-minorities situation in pakistan and personally I dont want the two to be seen as segregated in the groups (similar to how I felt when I saw the muslim world and non muslim world get segregated on the field.) I am not a fan of Gujrat CM and condemn whatever happened there some years back and so do most of the indians. and that is history now and people want to just condemn that and forget it as there is no advantage in remembering a sour thing. Otherwise the so called muslims and so called hindoos are same in india, we get same opportunities and enjoy similar rights. You may notice majority of our film stars and cricket stars are so called muslims. However for me it does not make any difference cuz I dont have any idea about religion and for me its a useless information. I dont believe in religion and have told all my friends and family about that and they have accepted it. Which is a good enough freedom in india. Would you agree? I hope such freedom also exists in your country and if someone wants he can openly say in public that he thinks all the religious texts are man made stories. You dont have to reply if you are not interested in taking the conversation any further.

I think enough has said to shoaib. He is a young captain might be still not mature enough… its too much criticism. I am sure he has no intention to disheart people. I have read article on news papers published by some one from india against shoaib malik. Its enough.
He has said now that he had no intentions like that…
and remember when some one compare india and pakistan history about minorities rights you will found less incidence in pakistan where our non muslims country fellow are targated. Its all rubish propaganda on electronic media in abroad. After Gujrat incidence where more than 2000 muslims where burned and killed by some fascists. here in Pakistan not a single non muslim become the victum. peolple respect persons that have wisdom and knowledge and doesn’t matter belonging of any religion(for example few months ago “Rana bhagwan Das” was the Cheif justice of Pakistan Supreme court). Minorities might not seen very much in high posts in pakistan due to the reason that in pakistan 96 % population is of muslims. Although pakistan is a country that came into being in the name of islam but quaid-e-azam had said in 1947 oct that all the minorities and non muslims have equal rights of citizen in Pakistan. Also u can never expect from true muslim who knows islam to make victum of non muslims.

Hashim Ali.

26 Nihit 10.01.07 at 12:25 pm

we can discuss it as long as you want..
we want to make it an issue and not let it get away without notice since it is not all OK cuz we dont want something like this which divides a bunch of people on the same field from another bunch of people playing with them. This criticism will help him and others to make sure they be more careful before making such racist remarks. (I take it for now that it was a mistake) Now that he has realized it and several others who could have made the same without knowing it. So it cleans a lot of our sporting environment from racism. (imagine rickey ponting or darryl hair making ignorant racist remarks and not feeling the need to be pointed out or ignored). I dont have much knowledge about the minorities/non-minorities situation in pakistan and personally I dont want the two to be seen as segregated in the groups (similar to how I felt when I saw the muslim world and non muslim world get segregated on the field.) I am not a fan of Gujrat CM and condemn whatever happened there some years back and so do most of the indians. and that is history now and people want to just condemn that and forget it as there is no advantage in remembering a sour thing. Otherwise the so called muslims and so called hindoos are same in india, we get same opportunities and enjoy similar rights. You may notice majority of our film stars and cricket stars are so called muslims. However for me it does not make any difference cuz I dont have any idea about religion and for me its a useless information. I dont believe in religion and have told all my friends and family about that and they have accepted it. Which is a good enough freedom in india. Would you agree? I hope such freedom also exists in your country and if someone wants he can openly say in public that he thinks all the religious texts are man made stories. You dont have to reply if you are not interested in taking the conversation any further.

27 Adnan Siddiqi 10.01.07 at 12:59 pm

Offcourse Indians will never accept the blunders they do and will keep pointing out fingers at Pakistanis. They forget that if they point out one finger at others then 3 fingers point towards them. I clearly mentioned in my own blog How Indian muslims are forced to compromise on various mattters to survive with majority but when there is an easy way out to blame others for own sins then why do one care to find out truth? *grin*

28 Nihit 10.01.07 at 1:59 pm

hey sharique pls delete my one comment which got in with large text of previous post.. and this one too thanks,.. Nihit

29 Sandeep Punia 10.01.07 at 3:19 pm

I think Shoaib Malik’s comments were uncalled for :evil:
He should have a good look at himself and decide if he wants to be a cricket player or a religious leader.

Mr. Malik not all Muslims “around the world” follow the Pakistan cricket team. There are more muslims in India than Pakistan, and making that statement post a world cup final played against India is insulting to all the proud and devoted Muslims living in India who whole heartedly follow their beloved Indian cricket team.

I, being a Hindu am proud all my Muslim brothers “my country-men” and what about one Mr. Irfan Pathan :?: Man of the match… proud Indian… and devoted Muslim :!:

More than loosing the a world cup final YOU LOST FACE…

Sandeep Punia… devoted follower of the Indian cricket team …and also sick of people like Mr. Malik and his predecessor Mr. Ul-Haq who continually disappoint in the endeavour to use the Cricket body for their own personal and inappropriate agenda!!!

Shame! Shame! Shame!

30 Nihit 10.01.07 at 3:25 pm

mr adnan what blunders and compromises are you talking about. we have no interest in pointing fingers at others unless it is totally necessary. we have no animosity towards pakistan or pakistanis. in fact we used to be one. but we dont want anything like religion (which is not such an important thing in the first place IMO) to come in between us. tell me, i am pretty sure if there has been any particular incident I and any average person would agree with you and condemn such.. but pls dont generalize and blacklist. (pls dont say go to my blog and spend half hr searching for what you want to point out here)

31 Nihit 10.01.07 at 3:30 pm

did i mention how much respect we had for the pakistanis for their braveheart effort after 7 down? rarely you feel so much grace for the losing team when you are on the winning side.. things were going so right while that comment became a spoiler which kind of made it necessary to take some steps that such mistake is remembered well not to be repeated. thats why there is so much noise.. it is intentional to prevent a future spoiler and let the harmony prevail.

32 Adnan Siddiqi 10.01.07 at 4:13 pm


did i mention how much respect we had for the pakistanis for their braveheart effort after 7 down?arely you feel so much grace for the losing team when you are on the winning sid

*grin*

the current propaganda against Pakistani captain says something else. Don’t try to talk about the picture which has not been drawn at all.


we have no interest in pointing fingers at others unless it is totally necessary

yeah so you Indians considered necessarily to start yet another campaign against Pakistani captain, right?


adnan what blunders and compromises are you talking about.

Since Shoaib’s incident was taken against attack on Minority, I would like to tell some blunders at your own part

: Blunders:

1)Pathan Brothers were ignored despite of awesome performances.

2)The riot got started after Malik’s statement and Fanatic Majority of India attacked on Muslims. Read
Telegraph


The Bajrang Dal, VHP and the RSS held a victory march in Rajouri, Jammu, after the game, stoking Hindu-Muslim violence that has injured at least 20 people. Some drunken marchers allegedly shouted provocative slogans and burst crackers outside a mosque where Ramazan prayers were under way.In cosmopolitan Mumbai, some innocuous and some poor SMS jokes targeting Pakistanis did the rounds.

APP


Hundreds of people were injured in different parts of India after violence erupted between Hindus and Muslims over India’s victory against Pakistan in Twenty20 Cricket World Cup. Media reports said the worst hit areas were Indian Capital, occupied Kashmir, Assam, Uttarkhand and Uttar Pradesh where Hindus attacked Muslims while celebrating the Indian victory.

This is HOW DO YOU RESPECT your own minority who’s currently blaming us Pakistanis for the filth and sins committed by their country fellow? I know people like Shariq would never admit that the problems within their own country rather on other side of the border.

:Compromises:

I did explain in detail on my own blog which you are hesitant to read for any reason. However comprises which Indian Muslims have to do are:

1)Cursing Pakistan so that they are not targetting by Majority. Feroz KhAN is just one of the example. The reaction of Shariq and many other Indian muslims on different forums is just example of how they have to struggle to prove their patriotism to hindu majority.

2)changing names to Hindu names to earn some respect or Job. Bollywood celebrities like Meena Kumari and DilipKumar are examples of such compromises who were muslims but had to pick Hindu name to getinto Indian cinema.

3)Inter religion marraiges: Muslim women have no choice other than marrying Hindu guys, maybe because Indian Muslims men are not given good jobs hence can’t offer good life .

eVEN Indian President, Azad who’s a Muslim puts that RED STUFF on his forehead which is hindy symbol to prove his faithfullness with state. This all happens in Secular India

Somebody must redefine Irony. *grin*

33 Adnan Siddiqi 10.01.07 at 4:18 pm

why my comment is not going thru?

34 Nihit 10.01.07 at 4:19 pm

i can see this on here

35 Adnan Siddiqi 10.01.07 at 4:26 pm

the one i replied to you is held in moderation, due to length maybe.

my not approved post also answer’ Sandip’s “brotherhood for his fellow Muslims”. The link I mentioned on my blog too which you don’t want to read because it might exposes things about Indians? read below:
tinyurl.com/3cp5kx

36 Nihit 10.01.07 at 4:33 pm

do you really believe that url contents.. it looks like a blog or something. how come this is not posted elsewhere on cnn or bbc? how do the makers of this news item get this news. were they present there or got this message on phone. i gave this headline in google and didnt get any good source. even if this happenned it may have been a special case or something and is not a norm. what do you want it to be? do you hope it is true or false?

37 Adnan Siddiqi 10.01.07 at 4:41 pm

now yo have started trolling :-) . This is not a BLOG but news report. YOu might like to read what your own newspaper say:

tinyurl.com/youy72


The Bajrang Dal, VHP and the RSS held a victory march in Rajouri, Jammu, after the game, stoking Hindu-Muslim violence that has injured at least 20 people. Some drunken marchers allegedly shouted provocative slogans and burst crackers outside a mosque where Ramazan prayers were under way.In cosmopolitan Mumbai, some innocuous and some poor SMS jokes targeting Pakistanis did the rounds.

I know yo guys have habit to accept your own mistakes. *grin*. If I follow your theory, I could claim that Malik didn’t say any such thing yo mentioned and it was a fake video/interview BECAUSE YOU WERE NOT THERE.

Ignorance is bliss but too much ignorance is curse - Thanks ;)

38 Adnan Siddiqi 10.01.07 at 4:42 pm

typo,

s/accept/NOT to accept

39 Adnan Siddiqi 10.01.07 at 4:50 pm

You should read the book “Google for dummies”. This is what Yahoo India says, quoting AFP!!

tinyurl.com/3dxnn3

40 Nihit 10.01.07 at 4:58 pm

ok i went to your blog too and the content was on the front page so did not have to search for half hr :mrgreen:
so here are my thoughts about these:

1. even if 92 win was in month of ramadan it should not be interpreted that pakistan won because of that. because ramadan is independent of pakistan and belongs to muslims all over the world including nasser hussain.

2. india doesnt feel good about talking abt malik thing in the moment of glory.. who wants to have bad thoughts in a happy moment?

3. people doing individual faith stuff is kind of personal thing and they can do whatever they want but saying that their effort was only for the sake of the group who does the same things is like filtering others. do you think sreesanth or harbhajan or tendulkar would ever say their effort is only for christians or sikhs or hindoos?

4. what ireland did on st patricks day was plain wrong and racist. if pakistan would have done that it would have been as wrong as in the t20 final.

5. narendra modi (who i and lot of indians are not a fan of) did get into senses and good for him that he gave prizes to both pathan brothers.. now that doesnt mean he is all good as he took some time but still went on right track. and it doesnt mean that people of the sect from gujrat are loved any less. just see how many people in india (of any sect) have posters of people from gujrat of the sect.

6. we are not worried about kaneria we are sure he is as popular and with others as rest of them.

7. amitabh had some personal grudges against lot of people including gandhi family, salman khan (for aishwarya rai incidents), some personal rivalry with shah rukh etc. but still it is very out of character for him to do that and he loses some of his respect for that. he would realize it was a mistake by him to keep personal grudges to the front.

8. earlier some actors changed names including dilip kumar(yusuf khan) jitendra(ravi kapoor), sunil dutt(Balraj Dutt), akshay kumar (Rajiv Bhatia), sanjeev kumar(harihar jariwala) rajesh khanna (Jatin Khanna) as they thought their names were not easy to remember but now that trend is gone and people come with their own name even if they are difficult to remember.

if there are some stupid people in our country who only know abuses then i am sorry for those. someday they will grow up.

41 Nihit 10.01.07 at 5:04 pm

i think bajrang dal, vhp, shiv sena are a bunch of baffoons who are just playing politics and no other agenda, i hate them for the way they want to impose their so called morality on my by not enjoying valentines day or dating etc. they wont go far..

coming back to the news item.. pls send me a link from cnn, bbc or reuters.

and question for you.. lets keep the fact “what it is” aside for a second, and ask you:- what do you want it to be given a choice? true or false? (like whatever you wish it to be will turn out to be what happenned) i wait for your answer, while i personally wish it would be a false news cuz any kind of violence in name of dividing people is a bad thing.

42 Adnan Siddiqi 10.01.07 at 5:07 pm

what am I saying, yo are admitting now,If there some crackpots in your own country then you should try to fix/convince themselves first before asking us to fix ourselves. as it’s said, Those who live in glasshouse don’t throw stones on others . There are weakness within your own country as well despite of being an economic and democratic gaints. if we all start looking towards own people and convince them first then we[indians/pakistanis] wouldn’t need to look towards each other because there is so much filth in our own surrounding that we woudn’t get time to raise finges on others. also u said something earlier which you couldn’t see.

You said:

we have no interest in pointing fingers at others unless it is totally necessary

yeah so you Indians considered necessarily to start yet another campaign against Pakistani captain, right?

This is not mature, is it? Preaching starts from home, you should reconsider your own thinking 1st then step out and remove confusion abot Pakistan from Indian minds otherwise we would just continue this endless arguments for generations.

43 Nihit 10.01.07 at 5:15 pm

we are trying our best to remove those crackpots.. but it doesnt mean that we should forget pointing others who do the same.. (why should we look at it as “us” and “them”) we are pointing out whoever does the same irrespective of “so called” nationality (in which i dont believe). its not like we will finish the crackpots in one place first as 100% and then start at the other room.. remember things never get to 100%.. you just have to keep putting efforts wherever required.

the campaign for malik incident was just to make sure everyone realizes how racist this comment is and no one makes this mistake again.. would you not raise a similar campaign just for one time (hopefully) to bring things in perspective for people who do those mistakes like sometimes people like darryl hair or dean jones.. we dont hate them but just want them to realize its not smart to label people in any way. do you think that is a bad exercise? should we keep getting pushed back in our effort to like pakistan by some careless comments that filters people out?

44 Nihit 10.01.07 at 5:51 pm

Mukesh - Zoravar Chand Mathur
Jackie shroff - Jaikishan shroff
Rakesh Roshan - Rakesh Nagrath
Salman Khan - Abdul Rashid Salim Salman Khan
Rajinikant - Shivaji Rao Gaekwad
Kamal Haasan - Kamal Srinivasan
Allah Rakha Rahman - A. S. Dileep Kumar
Mithun Chakraborty - Gouranga Chakraborty
Rekha - Bhanurekha Ganesan
Sridevi - Shree Amma Yanger
Jaya Prada - Lalita Rani
Ashok Kumar - Kumudlal Kunjilal Ganguly
Kishore Kumar - Aabhas Kumar Ganguli
Amitabh Bachchan - Amitabh Srivastava
Sarika - Moppet Suraj

45 Nihit 10.01.07 at 6:16 pm

Ajay Devgan - Vishal Devgan
Ajit - Hamid Ali Khan
Asrani - Goverdhan Asrani
Jagdeep - ?? Jaffrey
Paintal - Kanwarjit Paintal
Jeevan - O. K. Dhar

46 Adnan Siddiqi 10.01.07 at 8:29 pm


but it doesnt mean that we should forget pointing others who do the same

This is the most stupid thing yo have said so far. It means that if there is a blacksport in your own shirt and you are not cleaned, you have right to preach others to stay clea. Don’t you sould lame here? people would just ask you ,”first do yourself then preach others”. Preaching begins from home. Try to become role model first so tht others could follow you.

you wasted your time to do a research on all actors/ess while you failed to understand that Initially muslim actors/actoresses got work in cinema after changing their name. You should read a bit about Meena Kumari(Mahjabeen) and Dilip because at tht time there was no such trend like KHANs in bollywood and creation of Pakistan didn’t take much time so directors were cautious enough and didn’t want to take risk at all. The other prove of this point is that two Pakistani actors Santosh Kumar and Darpan tried their luck in Bollywood after changing their Muslim names ,later they moved to Pakistan. The list you mentioned were all HINDUS and they jus changed their name which was suitable for cinema, again all names were changed to Hindu names regardless of their length.

I don’t want to continue further but would like t clarify the purpose of my blog post. The things i wanted to say that:

1)Indians(muslims/non-muslims) should mind their own business.

2)When you point out something, try to seek first whether your own society is free from such filth. You should care about Muslim minorties in India rather about getting worried what’s happening in Pakistan. Muslims in India are being killed by Hindus not by Pakistanis.

Thanks and have a nice time!

47 Adnan Siddiqi 10.01.07 at 8:36 pm

India is a big econ and IT gaint and Indians buying stuff on other countries too but Indians don’t understand that being a great nation doesn’t mean being Industry gaint. As long as Indians don’t quit habbit of picking their neighbors and quit blame game, they can;t be a big nation. It shouldn’t be taken as a offence as i am just being honest and friendly because when India pick their neighbors,it just creates disturbance in region. India would be as acceptable as any other neighboring country if India just focus on their own stuff rather looking here and there.

48 Anonymous 10.02.07 at 2:46 am

even if your shirt has spots (which you accept) you dont start calling the other shirt spotless if that has any spots too. does anyone tell you to start lying if you have some faults in yourself? dont you keep reminding us of gujrat even before w mention any riots in another place (shoib incident was not a riot tho and we would be happy to criticize any such coimment made by narendra modi or shiv sena etc etc) i guess its time we start calling a spade a spade irrespective of “where” it is from.

ok whatever was the story behind dilip kumar or meena kumari (meena is also a name popular around the world tho and kumari is just like miss) its not there anymore so why cry over the silled milk when you already have fresh one(now khan name means a sure stardom :mrgreen: feroze khan had that since long time back). do you really want something to be there to cry about? you still didnt answer me if given you a choice what would you want the events in history and present to be.. do you feel happy/sad to know that the events were bad/or notbad?

btw nobody (indian hindu/muslim pakistani hindoo/muslim) is interested or has time to poke finger into the other unless it is necessary to make sure there isnt any mistake made which would affect the harmony irrespective of where it comes from. overall we dont keep filters like “us” and “them”. if your brother slaps you you would stop him, but if your neighbour slaps you you would not say a word because you mind only your own business?

yes we are cleaning the dirt from our house, but if our neighbours house has some dirt we would point it out so that he could clean it too or we can help him to clean it cause else our house would still stink. wont it?

muslims and hindus in india are being killed by both muslims and hindus in india which is not good, but that wont take our right to remind anyone else of a careless remark. Think about it you would do it too. i understand your honest intentions this it is not our “habit” it is something which is required at times even when we dont really like to do that. we also wish we could look at pakistan the way we look at kazakistan.

49 Nihit 10.02.07 at 3:03 am

that anonymous above was me :razz:

50 I Me My 10.05.07 at 3:27 am

Wow! Going by the frenzy on your comments section, that final game did make some WAVES on your blog Sharique!

51 neha 10.06.07 at 1:34 pm

oh i love pathan n he had done a greattttttttttttttttttttt and teriffficccccccccc performance………..

love youuuuuuuuuuuu

pathan

52 sadaf 10.30.07 at 1:58 pm

Hi,
A good summary by u. I liked it very much. I think Malik showed his norrow minded nature by saying that all muslims r supporters of Pakistani cricket team I want to say him he is very very wrong in thinking so, a real muslim is one who loves his mother land. then how is it possible to love pakistani playres.I request him to remove this misconception from his mind.

53 Terrence D'Costa 12.25.07 at 5:09 pm

Lots of comments about Shoaib Malik’s remarks at the end of the game. We should not go deep into this at all, as it only represents an appallingly poor command over English language, something common to almost all Pakistani players, making them unable to express their thoughts clearly. Gone are the days when Pakistan had eloquent speakers like Imran Khan and Rameez Raja, showing not only a decline in their cricketing standards, but a drastic deterioration in walks of life!

Lets all forget about this pathetic nation and its people, and relish the great performance of our young Indian cricketers in the 20-20 World Cup.

CHAKDE INDIA

Terrence D’Costa
Bombay

54 Anonymous 03.19.08 at 3:11 pm

mast…………………….

55 Nihit 03.19.08 at 4:03 pm

mr costa i am an indian and was offended by his opinion about muslims around the world.. but i wouldnt be so pessimistic about his country..

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57 Anonymous 04.19.08 at 5:57 pm

forza india
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