Comments on: When frivolous opinions buzzed http://www.shaarique.com/islam/ That's how life is! Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:49:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Sharique http://www.shaarique.com/islam/comment-page-1/#comment-1480 Sharique Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:02:48 +0000 http://www.shaarique.com/islam/#comment-1480 Dear antariksh, Your point is perfectly taken but then as a muslim there are certain restrictions on things i can do. Being open minded doesn't mean i transgress the boundaries of Islam. Singing or not doesn't affect our patriotism but it does affects our religion. [quote post="251"]i respect ur faith n u respect mine. [/quote] Yes i never disrespected your faith by not singing it. Dear antariksh,
Your point is perfectly taken but then as a muslim there are certain restrictions on things i can do. Being open minded doesn’t mean i transgress the boundaries of Islam. Singing or not doesn’t affect our patriotism but it does affects our religion.
[quote post="251"]i respect ur faith n u respect mine. [/quote]
Yes i never disrespected your faith by not singing it.

]]> By: antariksh http://www.shaarique.com/islam/comment-page-1/#comment-1474 antariksh Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:58:06 +0000 http://www.shaarique.com/islam/#comment-1474 dear shaarique, singing vande mataram is not abt proving ur loyality to India. its abt being open-minded. Vande Mataram isnt a Hindu song although it has some flavour of hinduism in it. its a song abt saluting ur Motherland. the basic argument for not singing Vande Mataram is tht it includes reference to Hindu gods. i wonder why my muslim brothers cant be tht open minded to sing a song tht has a reference to a god of a majority faith. thts called 'sahishnuta' in hindi. i respect ur faith n u respect mine. hope i m conveying my point. dear shaarique,

singing vande mataram is not abt proving ur loyality to India. its abt being open-minded. Vande Mataram isnt a Hindu song although it has some flavour of hinduism in it. its a song abt saluting ur Motherland. the basic argument for not singing Vande Mataram is tht it includes reference to Hindu gods. i wonder why my muslim brothers cant be tht open minded to sing a song tht has a reference to a god of a majority faith. thts called ’sahishnuta’ in hindi. i respect ur faith n u respect mine.

hope i m conveying my point.

]]> By: HP http://www.shaarique.com/islam/comment-page-1/#comment-620 HP Wed, 04 Oct 2006 06:23:24 +0000 http://www.shaarique.com/islam/#comment-620 @khansa, So you wouldn't mind if any Muslims coming from Bangladesh or anywhere else to setlle are treated as second class citizens... Well, as Pallavi said this discussion is futile and sometimes, so is our existence.. Cheers, HP @khansa,

So you wouldn’t mind if any Muslims coming from Bangladesh or anywhere else to setlle are treated as second class citizens…

Well, as Pallavi said this discussion is futile and sometimes, so is our existence..

Cheers,
HP

]]> By: pallavi http://www.shaarique.com/islam/comment-page-1/#comment-613 pallavi Tue, 03 Oct 2006 08:53:17 +0000 http://www.shaarique.com/islam/#comment-613 hi khansa, dont want to say any thing just few words muslims are also part of india and accept them like that... once again these discusion is friut less becaouse we have been living with them and we have to live with them in future also.. and this applied to both hindu and muslims hi khansa,
dont want to say any thing just few words muslims are also part of india and accept them like that… once again these discusion is friut less becaouse we have been living with them and we have to live with them in future also.. and this applied to both hindu and muslims

]]> By: pallavi http://www.shaarique.com/islam/comment-page-1/#comment-612 pallavi Tue, 03 Oct 2006 08:40:38 +0000 http://www.shaarique.com/islam/#comment-612 yes sharique, that is waht exactly i wanted to say.... discusion will creat gap only yes sharique,
that is waht exactly i wanted to say…. discusion will creat gap only

]]> By: khansa http://www.shaarique.com/islam/comment-page-1/#comment-606 khansa Mon, 02 Oct 2006 10:43:36 +0000 http://www.shaarique.com/islam/#comment-606 Pallavi, "They do not deserve any special rights as they do not belong to the country. Who is asking hindus to go all the way to SA if it does not have temples.THIS CAN BE APPLIED TO MUSLIMS ALSO…" Muslims in India are not people who came and settled in India from middle east. Most of the Indian muslims are descendants of Indians (or to make it more clear, read Hindus), who converted to Islam and are as much Indian as other Indians. The only difference being in religion. India is our homeland, and we are citizens of India as much as anyone else, not aliens. Pallavi,
“They do not deserve any special rights as they do not belong to the country. Who is asking hindus to go all the way to SA if it does not have temples.THIS CAN BE APPLIED TO MUSLIMS ALSO…”
Muslims in India are not people who came and settled in India from middle east. Most of the Indian muslims are descendants of Indians (or to make it more clear, read Hindus), who converted to Islam and are as much Indian as other Indians. The only difference being in religion. India is our homeland, and we are citizens of India as much as anyone else, not aliens.

]]> By: Sharique http://www.shaarique.com/islam/comment-page-1/#comment-595 Sharique Sun, 01 Oct 2006 05:27:08 +0000 http://www.shaarique.com/islam/#comment-595 Pallavi, Indians make up India. Anyway i agree these arguments and counter argument doesn't help and they just widen the already existing gap. BTW a Muslim government can never enforce this law that non-muslims will also have to pray namaz. I wonder why this prejudice? See the gulf countries, there are many non-muslims working there..are they forced to pray behind muslims? Its because religious freedom is something which Islam recognizes and the law, you have talked about, will be seriously irrational. You know sometimes i wonder why people are so prejudiced against other religions. Same case with muslims even..they will make imaginary scenarios and curse hindus. We need a better interaction with people from other communities and clear our minds of such existing notions. Pallavi,
Indians make up India. Anyway i agree these arguments and counter argument doesn’t help and they just widen the already existing gap.
BTW a Muslim government can never enforce this law that non-muslims will also have to pray namaz. I wonder why this prejudice? See the gulf countries, there are many non-muslims working there..are they forced to pray behind muslims? Its because religious freedom is something which Islam recognizes and the law, you have talked about, will be seriously irrational.
You know sometimes i wonder why people are so prejudiced against other religions. Same case with muslims even..they will make imaginary scenarios and curse hindus. We need a better interaction with people from other communities and clear our minds of such existing notions.

]]> By: pallavi http://www.shaarique.com/islam/comment-page-1/#comment-587 pallavi Sat, 30 Sep 2006 19:20:28 +0000 http://www.shaarique.com/islam/#comment-587 hi sharique one more thing, after reading your ans and post again i was thinking one more thing what i ill do if there is a muslim goverment and they will make compulsary to chant duas in school or read namaz in my navratri. would i do that.. and then my ans is no completly no..i ill not do that... im always agreed with your some points(but not all) hi sharique
one more thing, after reading your ans and post again i was thinking one more thing what i ill do if there is a muslim goverment and they will make compulsary to chant duas in school or read namaz in my navratri. would i do that.. and then my ans is no completly no..i ill not do that… im always agreed with your some points(but not all)

]]> By: hello_poly http://www.shaarique.com/islam/comment-page-1/#comment-586 hello_poly Sat, 30 Sep 2006 19:11:41 +0000 http://www.shaarique.com/islam/#comment-586 critising a religion will never be appriciated by me.. but really making discrimination is done by indians not india.. lets see what is discrimination.. explaing one "that is you" and "this is me" and i think we are doing the same thing right now.. by the way your space have a good content nice things to read. really liked it critising a religion will never be appriciated by me.. but really making discrimination is done by indians not india.. lets see what is discrimination.. explaing one “that is you” and “this is me” and i think we are doing the same thing right now.. by the way your space have a good content nice things to read. really liked it

]]> By: Sharique http://www.shaarique.com/islam/comment-page-1/#comment-560 Sharique Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:35:09 +0000 http://www.shaarique.com/islam/#comment-560 HP, Thanks for dropping by Pallavi, I agree that i have never faced any discrimination in my career so far but the same isn't true for all muslims. Ok thats not the point, the point is vande mataram is something which is not essential to prove our loyalty to India. Muslims would take strong exception to anything which goes against their faith. Please understand this, if India tomorrow starts forcing things which are against Islam then muslims would never tolerate that, its because faith is something very very important to muslims. Please read my vande mataram post on it. I still don't understand one thing, how singing and not singing proves a person's loyalty to India? its just a song!! I appreciate your concern for peace to prevail and we as educated citizens should avoid such controversies. Its like playing into the hands of politicians. But then I am for complete freedom in religion. Let religion be a matter of choice and a country cannot force things on an individual...freedom of expression you see. Noemaun made that comment in response to the posts i have mentioned in the first para of this post. They were really poisonous and and were criticizing Islam. I would never have raised such questions but then they forced me to do so. I do understand that there are people who would like to create trouble and we should be patient but then a response was necessary. HP,
Thanks for dropping by

Pallavi,
I agree that i have never faced any discrimination in my career so far but the same isn’t true for all muslims. Ok thats not the point, the point is vande mataram is something which is not essential to prove our loyalty to India. Muslims would take strong exception to anything which goes against their faith. Please understand this, if India tomorrow starts forcing things which are against Islam then muslims would never tolerate that, its because faith is something very very important to muslims. Please read my vande mataram post on it. I still don’t understand one thing, how singing and not singing proves a person’s loyalty to India? its just a song!!

I appreciate your concern for peace to prevail and we as educated citizens should avoid such controversies. Its like playing into the hands of politicians. But then I am for complete freedom in religion. Let religion be a matter of choice and a country cannot force things on an individual…freedom of expression you see. Noemaun made that comment in response to the posts i have mentioned in the first para of this post. They were really poisonous and and were criticizing Islam. I would never have raised such questions but then they forced me to do so. I do understand that there are people who would like to create trouble and we should be patient but then a response was necessary.

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