|
|
Mumbai, the commercial capital of the country, was again a target of the miscredents. This time they bombed the local trains which killed 183 people and injured 714. More pictures here http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/5170140.stm
Any sane man would be taken back by the terror unleashed. Those bigots just killed innocent people who had nothing to do with the government policies and perhaps they even don’t vote. But for the terrorist they were soft targets and an opportunity to avenge their personal sufferings. The problems lies in being intolerant.
Basically terrorism can be divided in two streams. One by the virtue of ignorance and other by the virtue of extremely passion. Young minds are brain washed to take up to terror in so called ‘madarsas’ (but they are a facade, madarsaas have always been a learning centre and they will be) by exhorting them on arguments like exploitation, subjugation and lack of freedom imposed by US on the Muslim world. They are made to feel that it’s their duty to bring back the power back to the Muslim world by any means possible. Religious concepts like Jihad and attainment of Jannah are modified according to their need and the whole theory is based on it. They are just trying to kindle the religious passion in the recruits and the masses so as to gain sympathy. These young minds are made to realise that this Zionist regime and the US are against Islam and so they should eliminate them at any cost. Lack of education and poverty forces them to take up arms. Few come into this because of atrocities afflicted upon them by anti-muslim powers.
The second streams of recruits are educated and well off youngsters who are brain washed to take up arms. A totally different approach is followed to persuade them. By making them aware of the deplorable condition of Muslims across the globe and the repercussions of US’s political dominance over the Muslim world. They are exhorted on grounds of global realities and the consequences if this situation is left unattended. But the religious tools used here are the same.
If I consider this whole situation as a Muslim then the motivations are no doubt convincing. Muslims have become an object of exploitation all over the world. Be it the earthly heavens of Kashmir, the holy land of Palestine, gas rich Chechnya or the treacherous mountains of Afghanistan. Innocent Muslims are killed everyday on arguments of establishing democracy (Iraq), election results are manipulated to ensure pro-US governments (Egypt) and the Arab world forced to be a loyal partners of the US. Every possible technological advancement is met with resistance and obsolete technologies are thrown upon as alternatives.
Muslims around the world are being targeted, like for example the recent cartoon controversy. Our religious sentiments are constantly exploited and kindled for malicious objectives.
But as it is constantly stressed that there is no place for terrorism in Islam. The crux of the matter is that those responsible are muslims for the sake of name. Some justify their acts of wrong interpretation of the Qura’n. Its because they are not educated enough to substantiate their stand and would just babble if asked. If Muslims are to progress (particularly in the sub-continent) then they have to get rid of these uneducated Mullahs.
{ 1 trackback }
{ 16 comments… read them below or add one }
trip 07.12.06 at 6:30 pm
‘Muslims have become an object of exploitation all over the world. Be it the earthly heavens of Kashmir…’
As an indian educated muslim, what is your stand on kashmir? it seems u think kashmiris are ‘exploited’ by India. well then what abt the rest of u 92% muslims in india? are you also exploited?
aren’t there other disputes in the world? like india china, china japan. japan korea, korea north korea… just to give some asian examples… then why isn’t everyone blowing others to pieces? u talk of kashmir, bangladesh creation…balochs in pakistan don’t want to be in pakistan… how to explain that??? one can always keep finding causes, right or wrong, but what should be done to promote it? kill people out to earn a living?
Trip 07.12.06 at 6:32 pm
And secondly, mumbai is not devastated… dream on…
Sharique 07.12.06 at 6:44 pm
@trip
when did i justify the killings?? or the terrorist’s response. But the truth remains..kashmiris have been exploited both by india and pakistan (to a much greater extent by pakistan) and the sufferers are the kashmiris…
‘how to explain that??? one can always keep finding causes, right or wrong’
there are always reasons for something and people do comment on things and have personal opinions…there is nothing wrong with that…there are disputes so? i am for peaceful solution but then politics is always a hindrance.
and why should i dream about mumbai being devastated?? its people like u who always doubt a muslim’s allegiance towards india and thus inculcate a feeling of hatred in us..
trip 07.12.06 at 8:15 pm
you indicated a feeling of hatred in mentioning kashmir as a muslim cause (it thought widely that these blasts are linked to kashmir and the same day 8 ‘exploiting’ tourists were killed there), when you yourself say that kashmiris are exploited by muslim pakistan itself. then the kashmir cause IS NOT a muslim cause is it? by that logic balochistan is a muslim cause too?
I totally take back my offensive comment and apologize. but you should also be careful in mentioning inconsistent muslim causes in commenting on such incidents don’t u think? because it does sound like defence.
Sharique 07.12.06 at 8:29 pm
well there is no denying the fact that muslims in kashmir are a victim of atrocities and becoz of this the mullahs have used them to spread terror…i was just criticizing those mullahs…and regarding ‘muslim cause’, i mean muslims as the victims irrespective of the perpetrator and plus you would agree that muslims are not the only victim in kashmir…count the kashmiri pundits as well..
Well to be frank i still don’t understand ur argument..that article of mine just highlights the reason of spread of terrorists among muslims..thats it! and a possible remedy
trip 07.13.06 at 11:52 am
you are inconsistent. when a political dispute makes another muslim and a hindu suffer in the name of islam, how is it a muslim cause??? is the enemy non muslim? no. are the sufferers exclusively or mainly muslim? no. today again four young hindus were gunned down in jammu. is their cause any different from the cause you claim for kashmiris? you make an excuse of a cause to say that the cause can be used to provoke people to slaughter others. the real question you should be confronting is when hindus are killed or displaced in Jammu ( or in bangladesh or pakistan ), why can’t they be provoked to slaughter in revenge? is it so difficult for non muslims to find causes? then why not? the reason that your weak excuses try to shield is… well read your books and you will find. again, a lot of bad things are written in most religious books (sati, untouchability, inquisitions etc) but others have discarded ( or in the process of discarding ) most of it haven’t they? then as a rational educated young muslim, should you not look at the reforms needed in your faith rather than make excuses?
ansari 07.13.06 at 1:03 pm
for one, sharique never said kashmir was a ‘muslim cause.’ he just noted that a significant number of muslims are being exploited there, as in other places. so this is a moot point..you’re putting something in his mouth then attacking it.
secondly, the issue is not about being provoked by a cause to throw around bombs. you and i agree on the fact that no cause can justify such indiscriminate acts of reprehensible violence against innocent civilians. so its not that non-muslims cant find a cause to take revenge against, its just that those who claim to be muslim and despite that go ahead and do such stuff need to go back to the original teachings of islam and realize this fact.
thirdly, and this is straying from the topic at hand: the reason for such events is not our book (there’s precisely one book
). its about people deviating from that one book and taking other things for guidance. you say that a lot of bad things are written in most religious books..for me, that would be a primary reason for becoming a disbeliever of that faith! how can i believe in a faith that has even one or two bad things?! God is perfect in every sense; we muslims believe that the Qur’an is a divine book, revealed by God to us humans, and that islam is a religion perfected for us by God. God says in the Qur’an “This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion.” (Chapter 3 verse 5). we cannot bring ‘reform’ in a faith that’s not ours to negotiate with! that would mean thinking that it’s less than perfect. as a rational educated young muslim, i should be concerned with understanding and living life the way God wants me to, and to do my best to live in peace and harmony with one and all, which is part of it.
peace.
Anonymous 07.13.06 at 6:39 pm
firstly u guys cant believe how happy i am to see this discussion,
personally i hate hinduism and islam alike, cuz i can see only ill-effects of both.
bt today this disussion made me think maybe the selfish relegious and political leaders are the one to blame cuz they modify the holy books to gain personal benefits.i mean i knew it b4 bt i had never seen such intelligent conversation by muslims(no offence intended, and the reason being i dont know a lot of ppl who emrace islam)
all i have seen is ppl say irrational crap in some orkut community.
i hope ppl like sharique and ansari get to spread their views and maybe hindus and muslims(even christians and sikhs) realise that killing ne1 can never be justified and relegion is not bigger that humanity.
by sm1 who was born a hindu bt gave it up after godhra,undoubtably the blot which can never be wiped, and being a hindu by birth i am ashamed that i was born in such a relegion.
Sharique 07.13.06 at 7:28 pm
@anonymous
Politics leaders have always milked religious sentiments. See this
More recently, the information secretary of the Lashkar-e-Tayyeba had, on the eve of the 1999 elections, stated: “The BJP suits us. Within a year they have made us into a nuclear and missile power. Lashkar-eTayyeba is getting a good response because of the BJP’s statements. It is much better than before. We pray to God that they come to power again. Then we will emerge even stronger.� (Hindustan Times, July 19, 1999).
I am surprised that u haven’t heard arguments like these..orkut is crap..leave it. I hope u contribute to this and thus clarify many misconceptions.
And as far as being ashamed to be someone is…i don’t buy that argument. I am a born muslim and would always,inshAllah (God willing), be proud to be one! few bigots cannot deter me from the path of righteousness. Its because i will alone be held responsible for my deeds on this earth irrespective of my community’s
trip 07.14.06 at 11:08 am
Ansari, i said books. now whether they are your books or not i don’t know, but they are being folowed widely. almost all muslim countries have laws based on sharia… thats the majority, then how can you simply say you have nothing to do with what most of your community is doing? if your religion as you say is infilterated by other things (heresies), then won’t you be judged for your inaction to purify your religion? As a member of our society, can you just look away? i did not say change the text, i said reform. i did not say lose faith in your faith, i said reform.
“If I consider this whole situation as a Muslim then the motivations are no doubt convincing. Muslims have become an object of exploitation all over the world. Be it the earthly heavens of Kashmir…” is this not presenting Kashmir as a muslim cause then what is it??? you think by denying such causes the violence will stop? al qaida’s goal is to establish muslim rule till span. simi’s official goal is to establish muslim rule in India. so lets assume they do that. then what… lets talibalize the country… then what .mmm… lets destroy all the idols ( like bamiyan…) then what… lets do the same in other lands… seriously, do you think radicals have any shortage of causes? can you deny them all causes? when someone throws stones at you, what do u do? hide all the stones in the world??? presenting kashmir as a muslim cause is one such trap. its a messy problem, undeniably violent and sad. but saying that in kashmir muslims are being exploited sounds like only muslims are suffereing. this is a blatant lie. sounds like written by a lashkar guy.
anonymous, since you are so rational and proud of your intelligent faculties, before giving up hinduism i’m sure you tried to find out if there was sanction for godhra (you mean post godhra right? because godhra was suicide and post godhra was riot) in hinduism? what did u find?
ansari 07.14.06 at 12:00 pm
This post has been removed by the author.
ansari 07.14.06 at 12:02 pm
“now whether they are your books or not i don’t know, but they are being folowed widely.”
i don’t know what books you’re talking about then. but if it’s something which incites violence like this, you’re wrong in saying they’re followed widely. more on this later.
“almost all muslim countries have laws based on sharia…”
get your facts straight dude…not a SINGLE country (not even the ones in which the population is majority muslim) is based on the sharia. not pakistan, not saudi arabia. a small percentage of their laws may be derived from the shariah (just this fact that it’s not ALL the laws nullifies it as a state based on the sharia). even in this case, they’re being implemented by selfish losers with no notion of governance, by people who’ve lost sight of the day of judgment, and by those who are out for their own gain.
“then how can you simply say you have nothing to do with what most of your community is doing?”
i have everything to do with what most of my community is doing. most of my community happens to be following the true teachings of islam (don’t kill innocent civilians who’ve done absolutely nothing to you!). let me illustrate: there are approximately 1.5 billion muslims in the whole world, give or take a hundred million. let’s suppose that 90% of them don’t follow islam in any way (this is an over-approximation, but just for argument’s sake). you claim that this sort of violence is a natural result of following islamic teachings today. if 150 million people all over the world indeed thought this way, do you not think there would be much more havoc in the world? would there be such relative peace across the globe? and why hasnt it happened in the 1400 years that islam has been with us? you need to realize that it’s a mere minority, in far off decimal points that gives people like you the misconception that “most of my community” is bomb-happy.
“if your religion as you say is infilterated by other things (heresies), then won’t you be judged for your inaction to purify your religion?”
of course i will. and i’m not looking away. i’ve just never happened to come across a person who follows this particular form of heresy. if indeed i knew people like this, it would be my responsibility to clear their notions, and i would. no question about it. you may not know of it, but scholars are working on this.
“i did not say lose faith in your faith, i said reform.”
i would say that there is a need for education. i do agree that most muslims in india are ignorant not only of their faith, but also of other worldly things, and thus they seem to not do the things you would expect them to be doing. the solution is education. it would also help if people like you didn’t have incorrect notions of islam and muslims and actually showed some understanding instead of brushing everything off and coming to simplistic conclusions.
i’ll stop this here..i don’t think anything constructive is coming of this. you’re welcome to continue this personally with me. my attitude is one of curiosity and healthy discussion, and i expect the same of you. if you’re just out to attack and stereotype and not listen or think critically, then i’m afraid that won’t be constructive either.
peace.
Trip 07.15.06 at 11:33 am
well i meant this to be constructive, and i apologized where i was not. I essentially agree with everything you say. I also totally believe the idea behind the bombings is to create divide and use the reulting cycle of violence to affect india’s growth.
all i was trying to say is that causes, problems, issues are faced by all. we should not look at it from a religious prism. yes there is world politics where the mighty throw their weight about. the advanced denied technologies to all, to india and to china too. those who were smart, acquired the technologies anyways. arab countries are not above politics are they? or using their oil for politics? they are just not strong, smart and honest enough to do it successfully. was not saddam killing muslims mercilessly too? were pakistanis soft on the bangledeshis? where is religion in any of this? similarly, kashmir is not a problem where muslims are exploited, its a problem where kashmiris suffer, and a lot of indians too…but its a political problem. religion is used by the terrorists to kill non believers in their religion. may be, just may be people like you and sharique should think abt this before mixing a post on bombings with any issues. to use your own argument, whats the % of all muslims living in kashmir and palestine? where is the siege?
ansari 07.17.06 at 10:17 am
sorry for the late reply..i was away for the weekend.
i agree when you say that issues are faced by all. sorrow and oppression are not an exclusive muslim domain
in the faith of islam, one looks at EVERYthing through the prism of worship of the Creator. everything. there is a clear distinction between the created and the creator and one keeps that fact in mind at all times. what did my creator have to say about so and so particular thing? if one follows the way of life set down by God, everything one does is worship, and this is how it’s meant to be. so for a muslim, he/she analyzes everything through the prism of his/her faith, because it’s so integral to them. its not something one puts aside for a while when dealing with an issue that seemingly doesn’t concern itself with religion. this is because as i indicated earlier, everything concerns itself with living life our Creator wanted us to.
this, however, does not mean that i concern myself with only muslim issues. God clearly says in the Qur’an that injustice and oppression will not be accepted of anyone, and anyone who condones it. God commands us to be just, fair, and compassionate while dealing with everyone, whether they have faith or not.
Al-Qur’an Chapter 4 verse 135: “O you who believe! be maintainers of justice, bearers of witness of Allah’s sake, though it may be against your own selves or (your) parents or near relatives; if he be rich or poor, Allah is nearer to them both in compassion; therefore do not follow (your) low desires, lest you deviate; and if you swerve or turn aside, then surely Allah is aware of what you do.”
so basically, a true muslim stands for justice. not necessarily other muslims. wherever there is unjustified oppression happening on a people, a muslim’s heart goes out to them. and if those people happen to be of his faith as well, human nature makes the heart more sympathetic to them. thats all. and it is a fact today that a large number of muslims in multiple places in the world are being persecuted for their beliefs and/or ethnicity. this does not take anything away from your points about a lot of the flashpoints of today’s world being larger than merely muslim problems, which i totally agree with.
as to your question on the percentage of population, i think it’s close to 90% in both territories you asked about. unfortunately, i didn’t quite get the point you were trying to make there.
peace.
Imran 09.15.06 at 2:26 am
With the sacred mission to unify all Bengali speaking muslim people we will build the “Greater Bangladesh” comprising West Bengal,Assam,Trupura and the North-Westrern Povinces by sucessful infiltration inshallah.Also parts of Bihar and Jharkhand.What youthink about it Sharique.
Sharique 09.15.06 at 6:22 am
Is that a satire Imran? I am not in favour of it. This mentality of collecting people of religious or lingual identity just doesn’t go along well. See whats happening in pakistan. These divisions just create a rift which leads to further animosity. BTW how about a united India and a greater Bnegal state including Bangladesh