Comments on: You cannot do without IITians

By: Sharique

Sharique — Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:06:16 +0000

ConcernedGuy,
I definitely do support you on “Hard work and experience of someone cannot be replaced by other”
But i said that based on my experience. There are many who cannot make it it to the IITs and they are generally prejudiced. I do feel that a lot of pride comes into picture. In fact this comparison is kind of odd for me. At the end of the day one’s achievements matter and not the college one studied in!

By: ConcernedGuy

ConcernedGuy — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:59:31 +0000

Sharique, you said it .. why do you think all these discussion is .. because of pride / ego.. between IITian’s and non’s. One thing is clear Hard work and experience of someone cannot be replaced by other, what ever IITian’s do in IIT cannot be replaced by non’s and what ever non’s do cannot be replaced by IITian’s. IITian’s are IITian’s and non’s are non’s no comparison.

By: Sharique

Sharique — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 02:32:15 +0000

Anonymous,
I completely agree with your point, being an IITian. But would a non-IITian agree? Won’t pride and ego come into picture?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:11:32 +0000

All this talk and argument is good but I think most have missed the picture. The key thing to remember and accept that IIT has been a huge marketing success. Given the investment and competition in the world, it has positioned itself as a leading brand for undergraduate education in the world.

What this means to you?

IITian: exploit the brand equity to advance your career and make more money.

Non-IITian: leverage IIT’s good reputation to position your school/achievements and make more money.

At the end of the day, after all the big talk and the philosophy, all that will matter is the value you have added. One measure is the dollars you make.

By: IITs & IIMs exclusively for Muslims? at Indian Muslims

IITs & IIMs exclusively for Muslims? at Indian Muslims — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:11:55 +0000

[...] Coming to the demands of the MPs. My basic argument is that education should be promoted at the lower level and merit should alone be the criterion of admission at higher institutes of learning. And plus are all the achievers only from IITs or the IIMs? No! You need sound basic education to excel in life. You can do without IITs. [...]

By: Sharique

Sharique — Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:05:49 +0000

ConcernedGuy,
The answer to your question lies in the opportunities that exist in India. As far is research in concerned, PhD programmes in India are not at par with those in US. Money is an important factor even. And even after PhD a high paying job is not guaranteed in India, leaving CS or Electrical people. Research in other fields is still in its incipient stage in India. And I have already pointed out that IITs are known more for undergrads rather than post grads for obvious reasons.

By: ConcernedGuy

ConcernedGuy — Sun, 19 Nov 2006 07:20:11 +0000

I also know that indians have out-performed in various fields and still doing, but the unfortunately so many of them are not recognised and they have to go to other contries to prove that they are capable.

If IIT has best of all education and what it takes to adopt elsewhere and what its waiting for ?

By: rain

rain — Sat, 18 Nov 2006 01:08:15 +0000

@ concerned guy
This is not the case…indians have out-performed many in various fields…its just how you look at things

I kind of agree with noemaun on this. learn2unlearn, even though every successful man/woman in not iitian but most of the iitians are successful! thats because of the education they get and kind of tough competition they clear. JEE is still todays ‘the’ exam to crack. I have entered into professional life 10 years ago and let me tell you that iitians are the smartest people i have interacted with. BTW IITs don’t produce doctors! so you are comparing apples with mangoes. iits have also produced lot of musicians,parsanna and many others. my point is that the kind of education helps them excel in any field they venture into.

By: noemaun

noemaun — Fri, 17 Nov 2006 23:47:57 +0000

@above,

nobody says that other indians dont contribute. but frankly i feel that many other engineering institutes in india are sub-standard. Unfortunately the students who shine in these colleges are those who heavily depend on memorising and doing exactly the same their instructors guide them.

here i see those people seldom taking risks or thinking out of the box even in research.

though iits pick up and boast the best brains in the country, they dont do overall good to their students. But then other colleges in india dont even pick up or boast their best kids. most often the examples that you quoted are those who became big due to their own talent or even luck.

By: learn2unlearn

learn2unlearn — Fri, 17 Nov 2006 23:24:28 +0000

IIT-ians r indeed Intelligent,Informed & Technosavvy. But are they as Insightful, Intuitive and Trustworthy to contribute meaningfully to India’s progress. I wish it were so, but I am not able to convince myself as things stand.
Also, to acknowledge most of India’s sucesses with in the coountry’s contours and globally is to do a great disservice to the other 99.999 % of the Indian population. Are Prahalads, Indra Nooyi’s Ram Shrirams, Vijay Govindarajans and thousands of medical docotors( to quote a few exemplary examples) not rising the Indian flags at extremely high levels inspite of their non IIT background.
Frankly, as head of the Pan IIT caucus, Mr.Gupta would have helped both the IIT global alumni and the mainstream Indophiles a great deal of good if he ‘d chosen tact,humbleness and balance in his interview. In a changing context, a diagnostic mindset and an openness to acknowledge and adapt messages is paramount.
I only hope that the California caucus doesn’t degenerate into gloating pride.
My parting question is this : Are there any IIT alumni knocking the doors of the Nobel or Genius awards. Let’s see in a decade’s time